Canon EOS R8 Full Frame Budget Camera Review | Canon Left the Fun In

[Music] Hi I'm Dustin Abbott and I'm here today To give you my review of the Canon EOS R8 fullframe mirrorless camera I do want To start however by saying a big thank You to camera Canada for giving me a Loner of the camera and the kit lens Here I've had a difficult time getting Uh Canon looners over the last little While and they have been great and Trying to help me out on that so big Thank you to them going back about 5 Years at this point kenon released their First budget mirrorless camer fullframe Mirrorless camera which was the EOS RP Now it had some severe crippling flaws To it but it was a camera that a lot of People liked and continued to like Despite those flaws you know things like A very dated sensor and very very poor Video performance the EOS R8 takes a a Lot of what we loved about the RP but Then adds in some really fantastic Things the performance of the r six Mark II with great autofocus including Tracking up to 40 frames per second with The electronic shutter a great new Sensor and finally very very good video Specs as well best of all the price Point stays really really low 1500 us MSRP although it's already discounted to 1,300 at the moment so is this a camera Worth buying well let's explore together Right after a word from our sponsor

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Can put your fingers around that grip And still have room to where your Knuckles are not hitting against the Barrel of the lens that you have Attached so great job there on the basic Ergonomics of the camera it's something That feels great in the hand and I just Find as someone who uses and reviews a Lot of cameras when a camera feels great In your hand it does change your Perception of the camera itself so kudos To Canon for doing a great job with Ergonomics the weight here is just a Pound or 461 G even with the battery and The memory card included and basically If you're familiar with the overall Layout of the OS RP you're going to be Pretty familiar with this camera as well Now as far as the specifications we have A viewfinder here that is only so so 2.36 million dots Canon's viewfinders Are fairly good I find but that's not an Amazing amount of resolution and Certainly there are competitors with Higher resolution though I will note That cameras like Sony's a7c or a7c Mark I you know they're no better when it Comes to the viewfinder now what we Don't have that we hav a lot of Canon's higher models is the ability for The shutter blades to come down to Protect the sensor from dust but I find That this camera compensates by being Really aggressive with his cleaning not

Just a cleaning cycle when you shut the Camera down but if you take a lens Off or you put the lens back on you will Hear that cleaning mechanism doing its Vibrations to help to keep the shutter Clean seems to be doing the job I didn't Notice any issues with dust along the Way now while the view find is a bit Undp the LCD screen back here is Actually really fantastic we have the Typical very angle type screen it is 3 Ines so you could put it in a lot of Different positions but Canon Still Remains pretty much tops in the business When it comes to the actual touchcreen Capabilities they're responsive I find That the menu is just really designed Well for navigation with touch and so Touch integration really helps a lot That's a good thing because we are Missing things like a joystick which is Very nice for navigation and instead of A third wheel down here we have a Directional pad or d-pad there so the Touchscreen really does help to provide Some control points that are missing Otherwise now the two different wheels That are here one right behind the Shutter button and the other at the back They operate very nicely with good Precision and likewise for the various Buttons so I will note you only have the Basic buttons there's no space for Custom buttons here so you're going to

Have to re program buttons to custom Function if you want something other Than their intended function but no just Extra buttons that are designed for you To program to some other purpose as far As other limitations here we do not have Any kind of side mounted uh card slot so The card is a single uh UHS 2 compatible SD card slot that is unfortunately down Here in the battery compartment my least Favorite positioning and on that note we Also have a smaller capacity back Battery here um that is only rated for 150 shots though I mean it does easily Exceed that the one place I think you'll Have more of an issue if is if you want To shoot a fair bit of 4K video uh Shooting video tends to burn through Batteries fast and so you're probably Going to want some spars uh for that Purpose in particular now like the r six Mark I we have the new positioning where We have the onoff and lock over here on The right side and over on the left side Is is a ability to switch between the Still setup and the video setup now I Love having that ability to be able to Switch between those two things which Means you can have custom menus and Custom buttons setup a different setup For both Stills and for video what I Don't love however is many of the other Older Canon mirrorless bodies this is Where they onoff switch was and so uh

There's a lot of time just because of Muscle memory like with my R5 this is Where it's located so instead of turning The camera on or more more importantly Turning it off I'll switch it into video Mode and start draining the battery Instead so I don't love that but at Least Canon has been consistent this is Now the third model that I've seen where It's using this position and so Hopefully it is something that they will Continue to do consistently that will Help people just have the muscle memory To look for it at that side now like the R6 Mark II we have improved Communications you can directly connect To a phone with the correct cable you Can use this as a webcam without any Additional software it has faster Wi-Fi Capability some positive things there uh But there is a a major negative here and That is one thing that we don't have is Inbody image stabilization no Ibis on This model and you know obviously that's A place where Canon has has cut cost but I will note that unfortunately a lot of The lenses that really suit this camera Really well like the rf28 mm f2.8 or uh We have the 16mm f2.8 the 50mm f 1.8 all Of these are compact lightweight lenses That really suit the camera but they Don't have uh lens St based Stabilization so you're left with no Stabilization at all so that is

Obviously going to be a factor for some People now there is a kit lens that you Can purchase with the camera and it is The 24 to 50 mm this is an f4.5 to 6.3 It does have image stabilization it's Not a fantastic lens it's okay uh However it is only an additional 200 Bucks and it does allow you to get that Stabilization for shooting video for Example and so you might want to Consider that I have one other kind of You know more minuscule complaint and That is that we continued to have a Micro HDMI output that's just not it's It's a fairly flimsy way to exit with a Fairly heavyduty HDMI cable I don't love That but again it's it's it's a cheap Camera so not necessarily a big deal the Kind of the biggest issue though with Canon in general that I do have to Mention mention is the fact that this Remains a completely closed platform so I I lamented the fact you know I Mentioned a few lenses that work well on It but you know as I kind of rack my Brain at all of the reasonably priced You know prime lenses that you could buy To go to this camera you know there is a Total of maybe six or seven that I can Come up with whereas if I'm doing the Same kind of mental math for Sony I can Go 30 to 40 lenses very easily with a You know a a higher level of performance Than basically almost all that's

Available here so I mean that remains a Serious factor I will note if you're one Of the lucky ones that managed to grab a Couple of the Sami early samyang RF Lenses before Canon shut them down the 14mm f2.8 and the 885mm f1.4 do still Work here so fingers crossed that that Stays the case with future models and Future firmware updates but at the Moment I can report that they still work Now when it comes to the shutter here we Have two options and neither of them is Is a fully mechanical what we do have is An electronic first curtain mechanical Shutter and with that you have a couple Of limitations you have a 1/ 14,000 Shutter speed limit and the other Limitation is you only get six frames Per second as far as your Burst Mode now You also have the option to go to a Fully electronic shutter and of course There the headline is you can get up to 40 frames per second uh you can also Shoot up to 1 18,000 of a second in Terms of shutter speed and they've done A fairly good job with the read out here So you know rolling shutter is is not Too bad there are a few other Limitations there's no flash sync with The electronic shutter you're not going To be able to use things like uh flicker Prevention or anti- Flicker and then Your you other limitation is is that Instead of a 14bit conversion of the raw

Files it's a 12 bit I don't know that You'll actually notice that but just Note that there is some give and take With both of those options Now if you're using the electronic front Uh curtain shutter here it's you're Going to have basically no buffer Limitations with that because it's Shooting slow enough that the camera has Plenty of time to clear the buffer but If you're using the fully electronic Shutter and 40 frames per second your Limitation is 56 fullsize raws but if You go to C raw or the compressed raw Option which by the way is a great Option on these cameras it's very very Clean very very good technology us Little space and as a byproduct that Increases up to about a 100 shots before The buffer fills and by the way I shot At least that shooting both compressed Raw and JPEG and I had I never ran into A buffer limit and so I I think that There is that's really not bad for a Camera at this level and also you have The option to do their raw Burst Mode Which does a a little bit of Pre-recording I believe at 30 frames per Second for a half second before you Actually fully depressed the shutter so Make sure that you don't miss the moment In capturing the action so very very Useful and as we're going to see as we Shift towards talking about autofocus

Autofocus is incredibly impressive for a Budget camera I don't think there's any Budget camera that is competing with the The actual autofocus system that's in This camera because it's inherited from The the R6 Mark II which is inherited From the top-of-the-line Sports camera R3 so this is an incredible basically 100% shutter covering and it I I mean I Found that tracking is just effortless Uh it does an incredible job of tracking And in this burst of of Nala this is all At 40 frames per second she's moving Fast and if you've been watching my Reviews you know that this is a a Difficult Target for a lot of cameras I Was just shooting with the RF 24 to 105 F4 Lis every frame is in perfectly in Focus and over just a few seconds I shot Nearly 100 shots in that burst and it's Just effortless and so I mean incredible Incredible autofocus I loved it as for Portraits and I shot a number of Portraits including with that forbidden Uh samyang 885mm f1.4 and it was Beautiful for that got really really Great results and so uh just fantastic For that one of the things I love about Canon that I wish Sony would adopt is That they have an auto mode for subject Detection that actually works really Really well and so instead of Continually having to worrying to make Sure that you have it in the proper mode

To make sure that you're getting the Proper tracking you can just set in that Autom mode and it just seems to work and So I could switch from subject to Subject to subject and it just focused As it should really really fantastic I Found it also to be a very effective Autofocus system in low light they are You know they claim it's down to a minus 6.5 EV that's if you're shooting with an F1.2 lens but even with lesser lenses I Found that the focus system remains Really responsive in lowlight situations Very very good and the RP uh had Terrible terrible video autofocus that Is not at all the case here the uh Focus For video is fantastic it utilizes the Same Focus system same subject detection It does a brilliant job so bottom line Is that this is a topnotch topof the Heap Focus system for this class of Camera and I'm actually shocked by how Little it's watered down compared to Some of the higher-end models I mean This is great made the camera a lot of Fun to use now on the video side of Things this is another huge area of Upgrade relative to their their previous Compact body full-frame budget camera That now we have up to 4K 60 and that is With 6K oversampling that's full sensor Readout no crop factor that means that The footage looks really really Fantastic from this I'm very impressed

By how clean it looks there is an apsc Mode available which will allow you to Use crop sensor lenses for example and And obviously that's going to be much More useful for video than it is for Stills when you're talking about just a 24 megapixel sensor and so I mean that Gets you something like 8 megapixels I Think or maybe just a hair more than That when it comes to Stills mode but For video it's it's fine and so it does Allow you to give you more options as Far as the the lenses you can use it Also despite having this compa compact Body it does a fairly good job with heat Dissipation and so you know there's a Limit at 4K 60 where Canon estimates You'll good about 30 minutes before you Run into any heating issues but if You're shooting at 4K 30 that jumps up To 2 hours so not a a huge limiting Factor there there is no basic recording Limit but obviously that there's going To be the Practical of either the Battery or the heating that's going to Keep you from recording you know Endlessly the other thing here is that We have up to 180 frames per second in Full HD for very very slow motion we Also are including hear things like Cog 3 HDR PQ I mean this is really really Great video specs when you consider Where Canon was a few years ago very Very miserly in putting you know any

Anything that might endanger their their C lineup of bodies they've seem to have Relaxed all of that now the one thing That we've lost relative to the R6 Mark II even though we have a lot of the same Video specs is that there is no HDMI Output of 6K Pro res raw and so you Don't have the same kind of H HDMI kind Of off-site recording but in camera it's It's 10bit it's good quality footage it Looks great and so again for a budget Camera that right now you can get for 1,300 bucks you know that's great video Specs There now also great is the improved Sensor now on paper you might say well Wait a minute the the RP had a 26 Megapixel sensor and this is just a 24 Megapixel sensor yes however that sensor Was a dated one inherited back from the 6D Mark I and that sensor was Disappointing when I reviewed it in the 6D Mark I and it was disappointing when It was inherited in the RP yes the Resolution Point looked okay but it had Poor dynamic range color wasn't as great As what we expect from Canon this new Sensor is much much improved in fact Canon claims boasts that it is actually Able to produce more detail than even What the 30 megapixel sensor for example In the Canon EOS R does I don't know Whether or not that true or not I can't Necessarily verify but what I can say is

It produces very very nice detailed Images 6,000 by 4,000 pixels is the Native resolution and that's not Anything mind-blowing and frankly I'm Accustomed to shooting with all high Resolution bodies but I the images look Fine out of it and I will say that it is Kinder to a little bit weaker lenses Like the kit lens and other lenses than Obviously what the sensor in my R5 does And so you can get away with a little Bit weaker lens performance because the Sensor isn't quite as Dynamic so we're Going to break things down because we've Got vastly improved dynamic range it's Over two and a half stops better than What was in the RP for example we've got Great ISO performance basically Throughout most of the the native range And uh and while we don't have anything Like mrw or or or S raw here which would Be less useful frankly on a lower Resolution body we do have those great Uh compression options have the ability To shoot heic files uh etc etc so some Great options as far as the the codec And the file formats there but we're Going to dive in and we're going to look At in detail at dynamic range High ISO Performance a little bit at the color And so that you can get a sense of the Sensor performance here and I'll Circle Back to you for a conclusion in just a Few minutes so let's start by taking a

Look at resolution and color so I chose This image mostly because I have Basically the same image taken with a Lens that I consider to be pretty good Optical which is the RF 28 mm f2.8 so if We look here at a pixel level you can See detail and contrast is very good Across the frame and then so no problem There however I also took a nearly Identical shot with the inexpensive RF 24 to 50 mm f4.5 to 6.3 kitlin and so Again you can see looking here that you Know performance looks pretty good now Putting these two images and thus lenses Side by side you can see that yes there Is a little bit more contrast and Detail In the RF 28 mm version you can see Looking at this area that things are Just a little bit softer and texture is Just a little bit mushier but my point Is is that if you were to put these on a Higher resolution body like my 45 Megapixel ESR 5 this lens would look a Whole lot worse by comparison because The 28 mm actually holds up okay on the High resolution sensor so it allows you To use some of these lenses that maybe Aren't quite as amazing optically you Know you can see here you could tell It's this lens is much sharper and has a Contrast up here but it's not a radical Difference and this is still acceptably Good likewise in this shot when we're Talking about resolution you can take a

Look you know anywhere you're looking in The frame on this shot and actually shot This with the samyang RF 14mm f2.8 that Everything looks really really nice in The shot and so the thing is is that I Think you could crop down in this and Still depending on your your applic you Could still get something acceptable out Of it I prefer higher resolution bodies For obvious reasons for that kind of Thing but when you consider the fact That most people are sharing their Images primarily on social media sites I Mean the native resolution of 6,000 by 4,000 pixels is going to be vastly Reduced to those kind of sharing Platforms anyway now Canon colors tend To be good and I found that to be the Case with the R8 is well I found that Saturation levels are nice there's Nothing that's garish or overblown here But color look rich that's true here With this shot of Nala and you can see Detail looks really good you know colors Look very very nice now my favorite Portrait lens that I actually have in an RF Mount is that samyang 885mm f1.4 and It's a really really lovely portrait Lens just overall one thing I will say About it is it does tend to be a little Bit warm and so you can see here that Skin tones are a little bit on the warm Side so I'm going to look more at a few Shots from the Canon actually EF 35mm

F1.4 Mark I a lens that I love that I Used for this portrait series as well You can see that skin tones is something That Canon does really well looks really Really nice the colors and the dress of The model look great here's another Fuller shot here and you can see you Know colors of the background everything Is is nice but colors really pop of the The model here and so in skin tones Again look really nice so that's another Area where I think Kon does a really Good job and the R8 sensor is excellent So let's talk ISO this is something that In the r six Mark II I thought was Fantastic and obviously with the same Sensor I expect the same here so here is Our base ISO we'll take a quick kind of Stroll around here you can see Shadows Look clean and Inky you can see no noise There looking inside the uh the mirror Of my SLR here you can see that looks Nice and clean look at the what the grip Should look like here as far as the Pattern the contrast the color Consistencies the swatches the timer Face all of those things we'll see how All of that holds up as we move up in ISO so if we jump up to ISO 800 which by The way is a piece of cake for modern Cameras you can see that all of those Things look just fine I mean no issues There's really no apparent noise that's Being introduced Shadows still look nice

And dark if we jump up to ISO 1600 we Can see taking a look here that Everything continues to look good uh There's no color inconsistencies there In the grip you can see there's just the Tiniest bit of noise starting on the Mirror and then the shadow information But Shadows look consistently black no Issues there now on up to 3200 and Here's the place where I would just Start to expect to see anything really Serious fortunately this camera does Really well at the kind of more moderate Isos of 3200 6400 even 12,800 as we're Going to see contrast still looks good There in that you can see that there's a Tiny bit of noise in on the mirror but You're not going to notice it outside of A pixel level likewise here there's a Tiniest bit of pattern noise there but Shadows are nice and consistent Everything looks good looking at these Color swatches there's a little bit of Pattern noise there but it all looks Good and the colors still look very Consistent now at 6,400 so we've still Got our base as a comparison there so Relative to 6 to base ISO you can see There's definitely more pattern noise Now in the color swatches but if you Look at the colors the colors still look Consistent blacks are now not quite as Dark because a of a little bit of Pattern noise we can see here there's

Still good contrast in the texture of The SLR uh inside here again just a tiny Bit of noise there no problem Shadows Look good and clean a little bit of Extra noise starting to show up in the Checkerboard pattern but again we're Still controlling things really quite Well if we step back and look at Everything at a global level I mean it Really doesn't look any different than What it did at ISO 100 if we jump up to ISO 12,800 we can see at a global level Everything continues to look really nice Things like that actually have texture Like the the grip here still looks very Nice and clean very very little noise There's a little bit there inside that Mirror but still looking good you could See just a little bit more here but Again it's it's fine it's fairly Consistent it's pattern nicely the Shadows are still looking fairly Inky Though you're getting a little bit of That noise kind of hotter pixels it's Going to reduce contrast a little bit And that's the primary thing that we see Here in the color swatch is just a Little bit less contrast now by the time You get to ISO 25,600 you're starting to Get into seriously High ISO territory And again if you're looking at a global Level really not much to be concerned About again Shadows are not quite as Inky and if we punch in at a pixel level

100% you can see that now the noise is Starting to look rougher looking over Here on the grip here there's a little Bit noise more noise on the mirror area But the grip colors are still looking Consistent as they should and up here in The color swatches there's not really Any kind of honeycomb pattern or grid That's showing up so far so good really Now if we compare 25,600 to the next Full stop which is ISO 51,200 you can see that there's quite a Bit of contrast that has lost during That process and so now whereas we still Had a pretty dark uh background Inky Background here you can see that there Is a little bit of a kind of grid Pattern starting up much more noise Showing there and if we look down here Just you can tell contrast is starting To be lost due to the amount of noise That's there at the same time looking at It globally you could use that image Certainly on social media uh sharing Levels it would look just fine now the Final stop from 51,200 to 102,400 this Is the final stop in the native range You can see that we've lost a lot more By this point now this is the first time Looking at a global image you can say Okay I can see that this is a high ISO Image but to be fair we're at 102,400 And so I think that you should avoid

This in most situations but this at 51,200 yeah I think you could still use That let me give you some examples now This is I would consider a best case Example I like monochrome for high ISO Shots better because yes you can see That that fine kind of pattern noise That is everywhere but it looks like Film grain it looks natural and you can See that there's still a very useful Amount of detail here the image kind of Works despite it being far less from Perfect more imperfect is a shot like This and so in both of these shots I Shot them in nearly dark rooms there's Just a little bit of light from a a Crack in the door that's bleeding in Here you can see that obviously on a Positive note Focus was still really Good so there's detail there but now you Can see in this image what should have Been a uniform background you can see That it's got some some noise going on There and so a less than than perfect Result in that regard so the final thing We'll look at here is dynamic range so We're going to start by taking a look at Underexposure and then trying to recover Shadows so here we're starting at a Three stop of underexposure you can see The original shot what it looked like Here I've added three stops of exposure Back in in Lightroom in post and so uh We're kind of looking for some of those

Same things that tend to be noisy at High ISO color splotches extra noise you Can see that recovering the shadow Information is really really clean um at This level it's coming back without any Kind of issues at all now if we jump up To four stops here you can see that Everything's starting to get really Really crushed but you can see it Recovers nicely with goodlooking Contrast nice clean looking results Looking through this Zone here there is I think just the beginnings of a little Bit of color noise but it is so faint You really can't see it very very little Pattern noise inside there and again This is still looking really really Clean down here and if you look at the Image out a hole it's it's very very Good good finally at five stops of of Underexposure that's a lot and so as you Can see here it's recovering still Really really nicely if we jump in here You can see there's just a little bit of Some color blotching there we're kind of Finding the limit at this point though It's not a hard limit you can see that Yes there is more noise I also find that Some of the textures are maybe not as Crisp because the camera is doing a Little bit of smoothing to kind of Correct but overall I think this is Still a really good performance Very few hot pixels in this area and I

Don't think that the detail is quite as Good but again it's still a usable image So if we go the other direction here at Two stops of overexposure you can see That in the original image there's Different color swatches where the Colors have bled out the texture color In the surface of the SLR or excuse me Of this timer it is been lost and Likewise here in the spine of this book And some of these things there's there's Colors that have become blown out you Can see in the recovery though reducing That exposure by two stops everything Globally looks really good colors back In the uh the timer face these color Swatches the color has been kind of Returned there and if we jump in and we Look at areas that could be hot spots That would be blown out they've been Recovered and the textures are all back As they should be there that's true over Here as well you can see the areas that Were kind of blown out here they have Been brought back likewise along there You know color has been restored if we Look down here at the spine of this book You can see that it was starting to look Blown out and the blacks were kind of Black levels were gone essentially you Can see that all that has bounced back Just fine we find the limit at three Stops of overexposure you can see that There is things that are not recovered

On the timer face it's not a consistent Pattern anymore some of the color Swatches are not fully back for this Yellow for example it's back along the Edges but not quite in the center so Things have been lost there and likewise Here if we jump in and we look at a few Of like the hots spot areas say on the Face of the the pin taxs here you can See that not all of those textures are Back here and here looking down at the Spine of this book you can see it has Kind of like a washed out kind of look Where it hasn't really recovered the Proper contrast there and is basically Always the case at four stops it's just A mess you can see that contrast is not Recovered the image has a an odd look to It it's just not right and so there's Definitely a little bit more limits on The upper end when you're covering Highlights than there is on the the Underexposed or shadow in so if you're Going to want to bias a an image in any Direction a little bit of underexposure Is easier to recover for leaving you More room in the highlights I found for Real world use there was plenty of Dynamic range you can see in this shot That I was able to bring back the amount Of detail I wanted here in the trees and In the shadow areas you can see at the Same time however I've been able to to Bring a little bit more color back into

The sky the blues are a little bit Richer and so it's great you can see Some of these clouds like here and here That were almost lost kind of blown out Here that have been recovered and so for Landscape type images I found that there Was good dynamic range for doing that And then of course for other type images Say portraits you can recover plenty in The shadows to be able to edit taste and So it it is doing the job that I want And according to photons to photos it's Ranked at about right under 11.6 stops Of dynamic range which is certainly very Competitive with all of the cameras Pretty much in this class so in Conclusion this is a budget camera that Frankly is a lot of fun to use I really Enjoyed using the camera actually far More than what I expected I I had Relatively low expectations and the Camera exceeded my expectations it has a Great sensor and it has a brilliant Autofocus system the fact that it feels Good in the hand it's small and it's Lightweight easy to throw into a bag it It a lot of fun to use it is held back I Think above all by the lack of embody Image stabilization and a lack of lenses Available in RF Mount at this point and You can say well you can use a lot of EF Lenses via adapter that's true but other Systems don't require you to do that Other systems have a lot more options

Because they've opened up to you know Other brands Sigma Tamron V TRS samyang Etc etc and so I'm really really looking Forward to the day when Canon does the Same at the same time however I don't Want to diminish how much I enjoyed the Camera I enjoyed using it a lot I Predict it will sell a lot for Canon Because it allows an alternative Typically at this price point you're Looking at an apsc camera and there's a Lot of people going to say hey I can get A full frame for that same price yes you Can and it happens to be a great camera I'm Dustin Abbott and if you want more Information you can look at my full text Review that's Linked In the description Buying links there as well as always Thanks for watching have a great day and Let the light [Music] In

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